{"id":111237,"date":"2021-05-17T09:05:46","date_gmt":"2021-05-17T09:05:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/staging.worldslastchance.com\/wlc-article\/migrating-de-cand-exista-fiul-lui-yahuwah-partea-1\/"},"modified":"2025-08-22T09:14:41","modified_gmt":"2025-08-22T09:14:41","slug":"de-cand-exista-fiul-lui-yahuwah-partea-1","status":"publish","type":"wlc-article","link":"https:\/\/staging.worldslastchance.com\/ro\/articles\/concepte-biblice\/de-cand-exista-fiul-lui-yahuwah-partea-1\/","title":{"rendered":"De C\u00e2nd Exist\u0103 Fiul lui Yahuwah? (Partea 1)"},"content":{"rendered":"<table align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\" border=\"1\" bordercolor=\"#000000\" height=\"44\" style=\"border-collapse:collapse;border:undefined;\" width=\"100%\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"100%\">\n<p class=\"indenttext\" style=\"text-align:justify\">Acesta este un articol non-WLC. C\u00e2nd folosim resurse de la al\u021bi autori, noi public\u0103m doar acel con\u021binut care este 100% \u00een armonie cu Biblia \u0219i cu cele mai recente crezuri biblice la WLC. Astfel de articole pot fi tratate ca venind direct de la WLC. Noi suntem binecuv\u00e2nta\u021bi prin lucrarea multor slujitori ai lui Yahuwah. Dar nu sf\u0103tuim s\u0103 se exploreze alte lucr\u0103ri ale acestor scriitori. Astfel de lucr\u0103ri, le-am respins de la publicare deoarece con\u021bin erori. Din p\u0103cate nu exist\u0103 nicio lucrare de slujire liber\u0103 de eroare. Dac\u0103 suntem \u0219oca\u021bi de unele subiecte non-WLC publicate, [articole\/episoade], p\u0103stra\u021bi \u00een minte Proverbe 4:18. \u00cen\u021belegerea noastr\u0103 asupra adev\u0103rului S\u0103u este \u00een dezvoltare, \u0219i tot mai mult\u0103 lumin\u0103 vine pe c\u0103rarea noastr\u0103. Iubim adev\u0103rul mai mult dec\u00e2t via\u021ba, \u0219i \u00eel vom c\u0103uta coste c\u00e2t ar costa.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"de-c\u00e2nd-exist\u0103-fiul-lui-Yahuwah- partea 1\" src=\"https:\/\/s3.amazonaws.com\/static.worldslastchance.org\/2025\/08\/when-did-yahuwahs-son-come-into-existence-part-1-romanian.png\" style=\"width: 650px; height: 412px;\"><\/p>\n<p>V\u0103 rug\u0103m s\u0103 lua\u021bi \u00een considerare urm\u0103toarele fapte cheie cu privire la pre-existen\u021ba literal a lui Yahushua:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Exist\u0103 relativ, c\u00e2teva Scripturi care par s\u0103 indice o oarecare pre-existen\u021b\u0103 literal\u0103 a lui Yahushua.<\/li>\n<li>Fiul a venit la existen\u021b\u0103 odat\u0103 cu concep\u021bia sa \u00een p\u00e2ntecele Mariei.<\/li>\n<li>Scripturile ebraice \u00eel portetizeaz\u0103 pe Mesia ca pe cel ce urma s\u0103 existe totu\u0219i dar care nu venise \u00eenc\u0103 \u00een timpurile Vechiului Testament.<\/li>\n<li>Ob\u0103r\u0219ia ca Fiu a lui Yahushua a fost profetizat\u0103 \u00een Vechiul Testament pentru viitor.<\/li>\n<li>Fiul a fost \u00een\u0103l\u021bat \u00een rangul s\u0103u doar dup\u0103 \u00eenvierea sa.<\/li>\n<li>Fiul nu a vorbit \u00eenainte de a se na\u0219te ci \u00een timpul vie\u021bii sale.<\/li>\n<li>Niciun text biblic nu afirm\u0103 c\u0103 Fiul s-a \u00eentors la Tat\u0103l.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><b>1. Exist\u0103 relativ, c\u00e2teva Scripturi care par s\u0103 indice o oarecare pre-existen\u021b\u0103 literal\u0103 a lui Yahushua.<\/b> Vasta majoritate a Scripturilor nu ofer\u0103 sus\u021binere de loc doctrinei \u201cpre-existen\u021bei.\u201d De exemplu, din \u00eentreaga Biblie ebraic\u0103 doar Geneza 1:26; Proverbe 8:22,30 \u0219i Mica 5:2 par s\u0103 ofere o astfel de dovad\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen Testamentul Nou grec nu exist\u0103 niciun indiciu al pre-existen\u021bei \u00een Matei, Marcu, Luca, Fapte, Romani, 2 Corinteni, Galateni, Efeseni, 1 \u0219i 2 Tesaloniceni, 1 \u0219i 2 Timotei, Tit, Filemon, Iacov, 1 \u0219i 2 Petru, 1, 2 \u0219i 3 Ioan sau Iuda.<\/p>\n<p>Trei sferturi din c\u0103r\u021bile Noului Testament nu con\u021bin nici cea mai mica indica\u021bie c\u0103 Yahushua a existat ca Fiu al lui Yahuwah \u00eenainte de na\u0219tere.<\/p>\n<p><b>Surse ale Scripturii cre\u0219tine pentru Pre-Existen\u021b\u0103 <\/b><\/p>\n<p>Prima carte folosit\u0103 ca \u201cdovad\u0103\u201d a pre-existen\u021bei este evanghelia dup\u0103 Ioan. \u00cen plus, Filipeni 2:6-8, Coloseni 1:15-17, Evrei 1:10-12, 1 Corinteni 8:6, \u0219i Apocalipsa 3:14 sunt v\u0103zute ca dovezi ale unei literale \u201cpre-omene\u0219ti existen\u021be\u201d a lui Yahushua. Tou\u0219i, dou\u0103 \u00eentreb\u0103ri importante trebuie s\u0103 fie puse: 1) Sunt aceste afirma\u021bii ale \u201cpre- existen\u021bei\u201d literale sau no\u021bionale ? Prin preexisten\u021b\u0103 no\u021bional\u0103 \u00een\u021belegem c\u0103 Yahuwah a prezis \u0219i a promis venirea lui Mesia \u0219i c\u0103 Mesia exista \u00een mintea lui Yahuwah. 2) Textele care se presupune c\u0103 \u00eenva\u021b\u0103 preexisten\u021ba literal\u0103, au fost analizate \u0219i traduse corect?<\/p>\n<p><b>Evangheliile Sinoptice \u0219i Faptele Nu Fac Nicio Men\u021bionare La O Existen<\/b><b>\u021b\u0103<\/b><b> Pre-omeneasca <\/b><\/p>\n<p>Luca 1:3-4: \u201cAm decis \u015fi eu, dup\u0103 ce <b>am cercetat <\/b>cu<b> <\/b>aten\u0163ie<b> toate lucrurile de la \u00eenceput<\/b>, s\u0103 \u0163i le scriu \u00een ordine, prea alesule Teofilus, ca s\u0103 ajungi astfel s\u0103 <b>cuno\u015fti \u00eentocmai<\/b> temeinicia lucrurilor despre care ai fost \u00eenv\u0103\u0163at..\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen ciuda cercet\u0103rii am\u0103nun\u021bite a lui Luca cu privire la \u201dtoate lucrurile de la \u00eenceput ,\u201d el nu men\u021bionat \u00een evanghelia sa c\u0103 Yahushua ar fi existat \u00eenainte de na\u0219terea sa. Dac\u0103 o astfel de ideie ar fi adev\u0103rat\u0103, atunci din declara\u021bia lui Luca c\u0103tre Teofil vedem c\u0103 nu l-ar fi l\u0103sat f\u0103r\u0103 o astfel de informa\u021bie vital\u0103. Luca a plasat pe deplin venirea la existen\u021b\u0103 a Fiului lui Yahuwah odat\u0103 cu concep\u021bia sa \u00een p\u00e2ntecele Mariri, a\u0219a cum vom vedea \u00een sec\u021biunea urm\u0103toare. Ceea ce ne descrie Luca nu este o transformare a unei fiin\u021be existente \u00eentr-o fiin\u021b\u0103 omeneasc\u0103 inferioar\u0103. Luca nu \u0219tie nimic de existen\u021ba lui Yahushua ca spirit de mai \u00eenainte. El a raportat unica sa venire ca Fiu, n\u0103scut din Maria.<\/p>\n<p>Fapte 1:1: \u201cPrima istorisire, O, Teofil, am alc\u0103tuit-o cu privire la toate lucrurile pe care Yahushua a \u00eenceput s\u0103 le fac\u0103 \u0219i s\u0103 le \u00eenve\u021be.\u201d Referin\u021ba lui Luca cu privire la prima sa istorisire care cuprinde propozi\u021bii despre venirea la via\u021b\u0103 a Fiului lui Yahuwah (1:35), arat\u0103 c\u0103 Yahushua nu a f\u0103cut \u0219i nu a spus nimic \u00eenainte de na\u0219tere. Acest lucru ne este specificat \u00een Evrei 1:2, un verset care arat\u0103 c\u0103 nu putea avea o existen\u021b\u0103 pre-omeneasc\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Evanghelia dup\u0103 Matei ne ofer\u0103 un indiciu asem\u0103n\u0103tor \u00een ce prive\u0219te existen\u021ba pre-omeneasc\u0103 a lui Yahushua. Aceasta explic\u0103 deasemenea, concep\u021bia lui Yahushua ca fiind timpul apari\u021biei sale, timpul na\u0219terii sale.<\/p>\n<p>Evanghelia dup\u0103 Marcu nu are de a face deloc cu concep\u021bia \u0219i na\u0219terea lui Yahushua, dar \u00eencepe cu evenimentele legate de botezul lui Yahushua. O examinare atent\u0103 a \u00eentregii evanghelii nu ne descoper\u0103 niciun indiciu cu privire la pre-existen\u021ba uman\u0103 a lui Yahushua.<\/p>\n<p>Tot a\u0219a la o examinare aplicat\u0103 \u00eentregii c\u0103r\u021bi a Faptelor, cel de al doilea volum scris de Luca, ne vom \u00eentreba : De ce, aici, singurul conciliu oficial Nou Testamental al cre\u0219tinilor, numit Conciliul de la Ierusalim din Fapte 15, a avut ca principal subiect de discu\u021bie dac\u0103 cre\u0219tinii dintre neamuri trebuie s\u0103 \u021bin\u0103 Legea lui Moise, \u0219i totu\u0219i nu se face men\u021biunea nici unei descoperiri revolu\u021bionare \u2014 c\u0103 Mesia ar fi fost mai \u00eenainte un arhanghel venit din cer?<\/p>\n<p><b>Confirmarea din Partea Savan\u021bilor Conduc\u0103tori <\/b><\/p>\n<p>Raymond Brown a fost un teolog biblic conduc\u0103tor al biserici catolice din America. \u00cen cartea sa, <i>Na\u0219terea lui Mesia,<\/i> afirma c\u0103 Matei \u0219i Luca \u201cnu descoper\u0103 informa\u021bii cu privire la pre-existen\u021ba lui Yahushua; pentru ei concep\u021bia a fost na\u0219terea (venirea)Fiului lui Yahuwah\u201d (p. 31).<\/p>\n<p>Distinsul savant grec F.C. Baur spune: \u201cIdeia pre-existen\u021bei este complet str\u0103in\u0103 evangheliilor sinoptice [Matei, Marcu and Luca].\u201d<sup>1<\/sup><\/p>\n<p>Profesor William Sanday de la Oxford nota c\u0103 \u201cnu exist\u0103 nici m\u0103car o referin\u021b\u0103 \u00een evangheliile sinoptice cu privire la existen\u021ba lui Yahushua ca Fiu al lui Yahuwah \u00eenainte de na\u0219tere.\u201d<sup>2 <\/sup><\/p>\n<table align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\" border=\"1\" bordercolor=\"#000000\" height=\"44\" style=\"border-collapse:collapse;border:undefined;\" width=\"100%\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"100%\">\n<p class=\"indenttext\" style=\"text-align:justify\"> <\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><font color=\"#666666\" face=\"Times New Roman\"><span>Profesor William Sanday de la Oxford nota c\u0103<br \/>\n\t\t\t\u201cnu exist\u0103 nici m\u0103car o referin\u021b\u0103 \u00een evangheliile sinoptice cu privire la existen\u021ba lui Yahushua ca Fiu al lui Yahuwah \u00eenainte de na\u0219tere.\u201d<sup>2<\/sup><\/span><\/font><\/h2>\n<p align=\"left\"><span><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"De C\u00e2nd Exist\u0103 Fiul lui Yahuwah? (Partea 1) image\" height=\"65\" src=\"https:\/\/s3.amazonaws.com\/static.worldslastchance.org\/2025\/08\/vEJ69Asr-quotation-marks-right-1.png\" title=\"\" width=\"80\"> <\/span><font size=\"3\"><span style=\"font-family: Georgia\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold\"><\/span><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><b>2. Fiul lui Yahuwah apare la existen\u021b\u0103 odat\u0103 cu na\u0219terea sa din p\u00e2ntecele Mariei<\/b>. Calitatea de Fiu \u00eencepe odat\u0103 cu concep\u021bia sa \u0219i nu mai devreme. Teologolul protestant Wolfhart Pannenberg afirm\u0103: \u201c\u00cen Luca Filia\u021bia divin\u0103 este stabilit\u0103 prin activitatea atotputernic\u0103 a duhului divin asupra Mariei&#8230;\u00cen Luca 1:35 Filia\u021bia divin\u0103 a lui Yahushua este stabilit\u0103 explicit\u0103 prin na\u0219terea miraculoas\u0103 &#8230;na\u0219terea lui Yahushua dintr-o virgin\u0103 st\u0103 \u00een contradic\u021bie ireconciliabil\u0103 cu cristologia \u00eencarn\u0103rii a pre-existentului Fiu al lui Yahuwah.\u201d<sup>3<\/sup><\/p>\n<p><b>Luca 1:35<\/b>: \u201cDin aceast\u0103 cauz\u0103 [miracolul creativ din Maria] cel ce se va na\u0219te va fi numit sf\u00e2nt, Fiul lui Yahuwah.\u201d Grecescul dio kai \u00eenseamn\u0103 \u201cprecis din acel motiv.\u201d Concep\u021bia prin duhul sf\u00e2nt al lui Yahushua \u00eel face Fiu al lui Yahuwah. De aceea Yahushua nu a putut fi niciodat\u0103 Fiu al lui Yahuwah \u00eenainte de na\u0219terea sa. De aceea nu a exista niciun singur Fiu n\u0103scut \u00eenainte de acest timp. Nu po\u021bi veni la existen\u021b\u0103 dac\u0103 exi\u0219ti deja!<\/p>\n<p><b>Luca 1:32<\/b>: \u201cAcest unul&#8230;va fi numit Fiul Celui Prea \u00cenalt.\u201d Matei 5:9 \u0219i Luca 6:35 demonstreaz\u0103 c\u0103 \u201cvor fi numi\u021bi fii ai lui Yahuwah\u201d \u00eenseamn\u0103 exact acela\u0219i lucru cu \u201cvor fi ai Celui Prea \u00cenalt\u201d \u0219i totu\u0219i ei nu au pre-existat.<\/p>\n<p><b> Originea lui Yahushua <\/b><\/p>\n<p>O persoan\u0103 este conform originii sale. \u00cen povestea na\u0219terii Sale, Matei folose\u0219te Geneza 1:18. Acest cuv\u00e2nt \u00eenseamn\u0103 \u00eenceput, origine sau na\u0219tere. \u00cen Lexiconul grec\/englez al lui Bauer geneza este definit\u0103 ca: \u201cApari\u021bia \u00een existen\u021b\u0103 a cuiva la un moment specific, prin na\u0219tere.\u201d Deasemene, \u201cstarea de a fi, existen\u021ba\u201d \u0219i \u201c\u0219i str\u0103mo\u0219i ca punct de origine.\u201d Matei 1:18: \u201cOriginea [originea greac\u0103] a lui Yahushua Hristos a fost a\u0219a&#8230;\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Urm\u0103torul lucru este c\u0103 \u201cMaria&#8230;s-a aflat \u00eens\u0103rcinat\u0103 de la duhul sf\u00e2nt.\u201d A\u0219adar, cuv\u00e2ntul genez\u0103, a\u0219a cum este folosit aici, are mai pu\u021bin de-a face cu na\u0219terea fizic\u0103 c\u00e2t cu conceperea Sa, momentul c\u00e2nd Yahushua \u0219i-a \u00eenceput existen\u021ba \u2014 \u201c\u00eenceputul\u201d S\u0103u. Profesorul asociat cu Studii \u00een Religie, Dr. Bart Ehrman spune c\u0103 \u201ccele mai vechi \u0219i cele mai bune manuscrise sunt de acord cu \u00eenceperea pasajelor prin cuvintele: \u2018\u00cenceputul lui Yahushua Hristos s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat astfel.\u2019\u201d<sup>4<\/sup><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"maria \u00eens\u0103rcinat\u0103\" src=\"https:\/\/s3.amazonaws.com\/static.worldslastchance.org\/2025\/08\/pregnant-mary.jpg\" style=\"width: 650px; height: 440px;\"><\/p>\n<p>Doar acest text ne demonstreaza c\u0103 Yahushua nu a existat niciodat\u0103 \u00eenainte de conceperea sa. \u00cen niciun moment, nici una dintre relat\u0103rile lui Matei, sau Luca nu indic\u0103 faptul c\u0103 Yahushua a existat doar ca om, ca \u0219i cum ar fi fost mai \u00eent\u00e2i viu ca spirit \u0219i apoi s\u0103 ia form\u0103 trupeasc\u0103 prin Maria, mai degrab\u0103 dec\u00e2t s\u0103 provin\u0103 din ea, a\u0219a cum afirm\u0103 Matei 1:20.<\/p>\n<p><b> Mesia, \u201cOriginile Sale str\u0103mo\u0219e\u0219ti\u201d <\/b><\/p>\n<p>Cuv\u00e2ntul geneza care \u00eenseamn\u0103 \u201eorigine\u201d este folosit \u0219i \u00een Matei 1: 1. Acest verset este tradus de Darby sub numele de: \u201eCartea genera\u021biei lui Yahushua Hristos\u201d. Referin\u021ba este la str\u0103mo\u0219ii lui Yahushua &#8211; originea sa, datorit\u0103 liniei sale de descenden\u021b\u0103 de la Avraam prin David. Totu\u0219i, \u00een mod logic, Yahushua intr\u0103 \u00een existen\u021b\u0103 doar la sf\u00e2r\u0219itul acelei linii \u2013 prin concep\u021bia sa.<\/p>\n<p><b>Mica 5:2<\/b>: \u201c\u015ei tu, Betleeme Efrata, m\u0103car c\u0103 e\u015fti prea mic \u00eentre cet\u0103\u0163ile de c\u0103petenie ale lui <b>Iuda<\/b>, totu\u015fi din tine \u00cemi va ie\u015fi Cel ce va <b>st\u0103p\u00e2ni peste Israel<\/b> \u015fi a c\u0103rui ob\u00e2r\u015fie se suie p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een vremuri str\u0103vechi, p\u00e2n\u0103 <b>\u00een zilele ve\u015fniciei<\/b>.\u201d Sau din zilele antice (vezi Hebrew interlinear, NAB, ESV, NRSV, ROTH, REB, and NIV).<\/p>\n<p>Mai \u00eent\u00e2i trebuie notat faptul c\u0103 \u00een Mica 7:20 o fraz\u0103 similar folosit\u0103 s\u0103 ne arunce \u00eenapoi \u00een timp dar doar p\u00e2n\u0103 la str\u0103mo\u0219ii evrei, nu p\u00e2n\u0103 la un timp de dinaintea crea\u021biunii. Mica 7:20: \u201cVei da cu credincio\u015fie lui Iacov \u015fi vei \u0163ine cu \u00eendurare fa\u0163\u0103 de Avraam ce ai jurat p\u0103rin\u0163ilor no\u015ftri \u00een zilele de odinioar\u0103.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Deasemenea Amos 9:11: \u201c\u00cen vremea aceea voi ridica din c\u0103derea lui cortul lui David, \u00eei voi drege sp\u0103rturile, \u00eei voi ridica d\u0103r\u00e2m\u0103turile \u015fi-l voi zidi iar\u0103\u015fi <b>cum era odinioar\u0103<\/b>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Noti\u021bele Noului Studiu American al Bibliei explic\u0103 Mica 5:2 ca referin\u021b\u0103 la descenden\u021ba lui Mesia din vechea dinastie Davidic\u0103: \u201cMicul ora\u0219 \u0219i clanul Betleem-Eufrat, din care provine antica dinastie Davidic\u0103 (a c\u0103rei origine este veche, din timpurile antice) cu regele ei mesianic, unul care va s\u0103 fie domnitor \u00een Israel.\u201d Ba mai mult, <i>Biblia Cambridge pentru \u0218coli \u0219i Universit\u0103\u021bi <\/i>spune c\u0103 \u00een Mica 5:2 cuv\u00e2ntul \u201corigini\u201d se refer\u0103 la descenden\u021ba lui Mesia din antica familie Davidic\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Deci, \u201eoriginea\u201d din Mica 5:2 se refer\u0103 la linia de descenden\u021b\u0103 a lui Yahushua, care ar include profe\u021biile despre Mesia ca venind prin tribul lui Iuda (Gen. 49:10) \u0219i el \u00eensu\u0219i fiind israelit (Numeri 24: 17-19 ), un b\u0103rbat mo\u0219tenitor al lui David \u0219i \u00een acela\u0219i timp Fiul lui Yahuwah (2 Sam. 7:14).<\/p>\n<p><b> <\/b><b>Cineva nu poate avea dou\u0103 puncte de origine<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Dac\u0103 originea din Mica 5:2 se referea la o existen\u021b\u0103 pre-Betleem real\u0103 a Fiului, aceasta ar fi \u00een contradic\u021bie cu Matei 1:18 \u0219i Luca 1:32, 35 care ofer\u0103 detalii clare despre <i>originea<\/i> lui Yahushua ca <i>nominalizat de c\u0103tre duhul sf\u00e2nt <\/i>pentru a deveni Fiul lui Yahuwah, adic\u0103 na\u0219terea sa prin Maria.<\/p>\n<p>Referindu-se la Mica 5:2, James Dunn, profesor de divinitate la Universitatea Durham, spune c\u0103 varianta ebraica nu sugereaz\u0103 preexisten\u021ba. Referin\u021bele \u00eencruci\u0219ate ne arat\u0103 c\u0103 probabil la Mica 5:2 se g\u00e2ndeau evreii primului secol c\u00e2nd spuneau \u00een Ioan 7:42: \u201cNu zice Scriptura c\u0103 Hristosul are s\u0103 vin\u0103 din <b>s\u0103m\u00e2n\u0163a lui David \u015fi din satul Betleem<\/b>, unde era David?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Prin urmare, Mesia, ca descendent final al dinastiei Davidice, face parte dintr-o dinastie antic\u0103. \u00cen context, ar fi incorect s\u0103 presupunem c\u0103 acest lucru \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 Mesia a existat \u00eenainte de crearea lumii. Un Yahushua esen\u021bial ne-uman sau pre-uman nu este Mesia Noului Testament, ci str\u0103in de paginile sale.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen mod similar, \u00een \u00eencercarea de a evalua cine este Yahushua \u00een Ioan 7:40-41: \u201cUnii din norod, c\u00e2nd au auzit aceste cuvinte, ziceau: \u201eAcesta este cu adev\u0103rat <b>Prorocul.\u2019<\/b> 41 Al\u0163ii ziceau: \u201eAcesta este <b>Hristosul\u201d<\/b>.<\/p>\n<p>Iar \u00een Matei 16:13-14 c\u00e2nd au fost \u00eentreba\u021bi de c\u0103tre Yahushua \u201c\u2018Cine zic oamenii c\u0103 sunt Eu, Fiul omului?\u201d 14 Ei au r\u0103spuns: \u201eUnii zic c\u0103 e\u015fti <b>Ioan Botez\u0103torul<\/b>; al\u0163ii, <b>Ilie<\/b>; al\u0163ii, <b>Ieremia<\/b> sau unul din <b>prooroci<\/b>.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ioan 1:49 \u00eei d\u0103 dreptate lui Natanael prin: \u201cRabi, tu e\u0219ti <b>Fiul lui Yahuwah<\/b>, e\u0219ti <b>rege al lui Israel<\/b>.\u201d \u00cen nici un caz nu se sugereaz\u0103 c\u0103 Yahushua este un spirit care a existat dintotdeauna.<\/p>\n<p><b>Fiul s-a n\u0103scut o dat\u0103<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Matei 1:20<\/b>: \u201c C\u0103ci ce s-a <b>z\u0103mislit <\/b>[generat]<b> <\/b>\u00een ea.\u201d Z\u0103mislit = generat. Defini\u021bia dic\u021bionarului pentru z\u0103mislire este a proveni, a provoca existen\u021ba. James Dunn comenteaz\u0103 \u00een Christology in the Making:<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<b>Z\u0103mislirea<\/b> &#8230; <b>venirea \u00een existen\u021b\u0103<\/b> a celui care va fi chemat \u0219i <b>va fi de fapt Fiul lui Yahuwah<\/b>, nu tranzi\u021bia unei fiin\u021be deja existente pentru a lua trupul unui bebelu\u0219 uman sau metamorfozarea unei fiin\u021be divine \u00eentr-un f\u0103t uman \u201d (p. 51).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"iesle\" src=\"https:\/\/s3.amazonaws.com\/static.worldslastchance.org\/2025\/08\/39gxZWPA-empty-manger-2.png\" style=\"width: 450px; height: 369px;\"><\/p>\n<p>\u00cen scriptur\u0103, orice persoan\u0103 despre care se spune c\u0103 a fost z\u0103mislit\/\u0103, \u0219i-a \u00eenceput existen\u021ba doar \u00een momentul conceperii lui\/ei. Este incorrect s\u0103 spui c\u0103 Yahushua s-a n\u0103scut doar ca om \u00een timpul concep\u021biei sale. Mai \u00eent\u00e2i este persoana \u2014 individul \u2014 care \u0219i-a \u00eenceput existen\u021ba \u00een momentul acela. Este ilogic s\u0103 spunem c\u0103 cineva se poate na\u0219te de dou\u0103 ori! Da, cre\u0219tinii se \u201cnasc din nou,\u201d dar aceea este o <b>rena\u0219tere spiritual\u0103<\/b>:<\/p>\n<p><b>1 Ioan 5:18:<\/b> \u201c\u0218tim c\u0103 <b>oricine este n\u0103scut<\/b> din Yahuwah, nu tr\u0103ie\u015fte \u00een p\u0103cat, ci pe<b> Cel n\u0103scut din Yahuwah<\/b>, \u00eel va p\u0103zi \u0219i proteja.\u201d (NTLR).<\/p>\n<p>Expresia <b>\u201ea fi z\u0103mislit\u201d<\/b> este \u00een timpul perfect \u00een textele grecesti, indic\u00e2nd o condi\u021bie continu\u0103 \u00een cazul cre\u0219tinilor, adic\u0103 rena\u0219terea spiritual\u0103. Cu toate acestea, sintagma <b>\u201eCel care a fost n\u0103scut\u201d<\/b>, cu referire la Yahushua, se afl\u0103 \u00een timpul aorist \u00een greac\u0103 \u0219i se refer\u0103 la un eveniment din trecut, care nu poate fi repetat niciodat\u0103 &#8211; o na\u0219tere fizic\u0103. Prin urmare, na\u0219terea lui Yahushua a avut loc \u00een conformitate cu Matei 1:20 \u0219i Luca 1:35 numai cu ocazia \u00een care a fost conceput \/ n\u0103scut supranatural \u00een p\u00e2ntecele Mariei.<\/p>\n<p>Termenii \u201eunic-n\u0103scut al Tat\u0103lui\u201d, \u201esingurul Fiu n\u0103scut\u201d \u0219i \u201esingurul Fiu al lui Yahuwah\u201d apar \u00een Ioan 1:14, 18; 3:16, 18 \u0219i 1 Ioan 4:9. To\u021bi se refer\u0103 la unicitatea lui Yahushua ca fiu \u0219i, \u00een special, la unicitatea conceperii sale din fecioara Maria \u0219i prin faptul c\u0103 nu are tat\u0103 uman. Aceasta \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 Yahushua, de\u0219i pe deplin uman, nu trebuie niciodat\u0103 privit ca un \u201esimplu om\u201d &#8211; el este o persoan\u0103 n\u0103scut\u0103 \u00een mod unic.<\/p>\n<p>Deoarece \u201ez\u0103mislit\u201d \u00eenseamn\u0103 \u201eadus la existen\u021b\u0103\u201d, ideea unei transform\u0103ri de la o form\u0103 de via\u021b\u0103 la alta este \u00een mod logic exclus\u0103.<\/p>\n<p><b>Potrivit lui Pavel, El nu a existat \u00eenainte de na\u0219tere<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Apostolul Pavel exprim\u0103 venirea lui Yahushua \u00een aceia\u0219i termeni ca Matei \u0219i Luca:<\/p>\n<p><b>Galateni 4:4:<\/b> \u201cDar, la \u00eemplinirea vremii, Dumnezeu \u015ei-a trimis Fiul, <b>n\u0103scut din<\/b> [genomenon] femeie.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cuv\u00e2ntul grecesc genomenon provine de la verbul <b>ginomai = a lua fiin\u021b\u0103<\/b>. Aceasta exclude ideea de a veni prin Maria, a\u0219a cum ar fi cazul cu cineva care exista de mai \u00eenainte s\u0103 ia fiin\u021b\u0103. <b>Ginomai este definit ca:<\/b> (1) a lua fiin\u021b\u0103 prin procesul na\u0219terii (Gal. 4:4).<\/p>\n<p>2) A lua fiin\u021b\u0103 <i>(Bauer\u2019s Lexicon).<\/i><\/p>\n<p>A deveni, adic\u0103 a lua fiin\u021b\u0103, a \u00eencepe existen\u021ba, s\u0103 ia \u00eenf\u0103\u021bi\u0219are <i>(Thayer\u2019s Lexicon). <\/i><\/p>\n<p>Dac\u0103 Yahushua ar fi existat dinainte, atunci termeni precum \u00eencarnare sau transmigra\u021bie sau transformare ar fi potrivite. Dar \u00een cazul Fiului lui Yahuwah, Biblia descrie clar \u00eenceputul unei persoane noi, exact a\u0219a cum a fost profe\u021bit \u00een Psalmii 2:7 \u0219i 2 Samuel 7:14.<\/p>\n<p><b>Profe\u021bia viitoarei na\u0219teri<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Psalm 2:7: \u201cTu e\u015fti Fiul Meu! <b>Ast\u0103zi <\/b>Te-am n\u0103scut!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Conform Evrei 1:5 \u0219i Fapte 13:33, acest lucru s-a \u00eemplinit c\u00e2nd s-a n\u0103scut Yahushua. Cu toate acestea, exist\u0103 o problem\u0103 de traducere cu Fapte 13:33. Expresia \u201eridicat\u201d a fost tradus\u0103 gre\u0219it \u00een KJV \u0219i mai t\u00e2rziu \u00een NWT ca \u201eridicat din nou\u201d sau \u201e\u00eenviat\u201d. Traducerile literale \u0219i NKJV \u0219i NIV au corectat acest lucru. F.F Bruce afirm\u0103 \u00een leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu Fapte 13:33:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPromisiunea v. 23, a c\u0103rei \u00eemplinire este descris\u0103 \u00een v. 33, are leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu trimiterea lui Mesia, <b>nu cu \u00eenvierea sa<\/b> (pentru care vezi v. 34). Versetul 34 cite\u0219te \u00een original, \u201edintre mor\u021bi\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Deci suntem obliga\u021bi s\u0103 diferen\u021biem cuv\u00e2ntul \u00eenviat din versetul 33 fa\u021b\u0103 de \u00eenviat din mor\u021bi \u00een versetul 34.<\/p>\n<p><b>Genealogia lui Yahushua<\/b><\/p>\n<p>\u00cen Evanghelia dup\u0103 Matei, genealogia lui Yahushua dateaz\u0103 prin David p\u00e2n\u0103 la Avraam.Relat\u0103rile genealogice date de c\u0103tre Luca dateaz\u0103 \u0219i mai \u00eenapoi p\u00e2n\u0103 la Adam (Luca 3:38). Amandoi Matei c\u00e2t \u0219i Luca puteau foarte u\u0219or s\u0103 fi men\u021bionat pe undeva dac\u0103 ar fi crezut \u00een preexisten\u021b\u0103, un Fiu existent de \u00eenainte s\u0103 ia trup uman, \u00eens\u0103, \u00een scrierile lor detaliate nu se aminteste niciodat\u0103 asta. \u00cen apropiat\u0103 leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu lista genealogic\u0103 scris\u0103 de Matei, este \u0219i afirma\u021bia cum c\u0103 Yahushua \u0219i-a \u00eenceput existen\u021ba \u00een p\u00e2ntecele Mariei (Matei. 1:20). Timpul \u0219i loca\u021bia originii Fiului lui Yahuwah sunt clarificate \u00een mod clar \u0219i transparent. Luca deasemenea ne spune c\u0103 Fiul lui Yahuwah \u0219i-a \u00eenceput existen\u021ba \u00een p\u0103ntecele mamei sale. (Luca 1:32, 35). De-a lungul evanghelilor sinoptice Yahushua este amintit de multe ori ca \u201cfiul lui David.\u201d<b> El nu este asociat niciodat\u0103 cu Mihail sau orice alt\u0103 fiin\u021b\u0103 cereasc\u0103. <\/b>A\u0219adar, pentru Yahushua o existen\u021b\u0103 angelic\u0103 este \u00een mod clar exclus\u0103.<\/p>\n<table align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\" border=\"1\" bordercolor=\"#000000\" height=\"174\" style=\"border-collapse: collapse;\" width=\"1863\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"100%\">\n<p class=\"indenttext\" style=\"text-align:justify\"> <\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><font color=\"#666666\" face=\"Times New Roman\"><span>De-a lungul evanghelilor sinoptice Yahushua<br \/>\n\t\t\teste amintit de multe ori ca \u201cfiul lui David.\u201d<br \/>\n\t\t\tEl nu este asociat niciodat\u0103 cu Mihail sau orice alt\u0103 fiin\u021b\u0103 cereasc\u0103.<br \/>\n\t\t\tA\u0219adar, pentru Yahushua o existen\u021b\u0103 angelica este \u00een mod clar exclus\u0103.<\/span><\/font><\/h2>\n<p> <\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><span><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"De C\u00e2nd Exist\u0103 Fiul lui Yahuwah? (Partea 1) image\" height=\"65\" src=\"https:\/\/s3.amazonaws.com\/static.worldslastchance.org\/2025\/08\/vEJ69Asr-quotation-marks-right-1.png\" title=\"\" width=\"80\"> <\/span><font size=\"3\"><span style=\"font-family: Georgia\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold\"><\/span><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Dac\u0103 Yahushua ar fi fost deja preexistent sub numele de <i>Mihail <\/i>este clar c\u0103 nu ar fi putut s\u0103 fie urma\u0219ul biologic \u0219i direct al lui David. A vorbi despre o existen\u021b\u0103 pre-uman\u0103 contrazice Scripturile, care ne arat\u0103 clar c\u0103 Yahushua \u00ee\u0219i \u00eencepe existen\u021b\u0103 doar la conceperea sa \u00een Maria. Cineva nu poate exista \u00eenainte ca acesta s\u0103-\u0219i \u00eenceap\u0103 existen\u021ba. O astfel de idee este ilogic\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Ioan \u00eei avertiza pe credincio\u0219i s\u0103 accepted doar un Yahushua \u201cvenind \u00een form\u0103 trupeasc\u0103\u201d acel Mesia prezis din istorie \u0219i venind ca om. Al\u021bi \u201eHristo\u0219i\u201d trebuiau evita\u021bi ca falsuri periculoase. \u201cOrice duh care m\u0103rturise\u015fte c\u0103 Yahushua Hristos a venit \u00een trup este de la Yahuwah; \u015fi orice duh care nu m\u0103rturise\u015fte pe Yahushua nu este de laYahuwah\u201d (1 Ioan 4:2-3).<\/p>\n<p><b>3. Scripturile \u00een variantele lor ebraice \u00eel portretizeaz\u0103 pe Mesia ca cineva care urma s\u0103 existe. <\/b><\/p>\n<p>A spus vreuna dintre Scripturile ebraice evreilor din primul secol s\u0103 se a\u0219tepte la un mesia care trebuia s\u0103 renun\u021be la via\u021ba sa con\u0219tient\u0103 ca arhanghel sau fiin\u021b\u0103 cereasc\u0103? V\u0103 rug\u0103m s\u0103 re\u021bine\u021bi urm\u0103toarele profe\u021bii mesianice.<\/p>\n<p><b>Numeri 24:14-17<\/b>: \u201cVino s\u0103 te avertizez cu privire la ce va face poporul acesta poporului t\u0103u, \u00een zilele care vin&#8230; rostirea celui care aude spusele lui Yah&#8230;\u2018 \u00cel v\u0103d [Messiah] , dar nu acum, \u00eel privesc, dar nu de aproape! O stea r\u0103sare din Iacov, un sceptru se ridic\u0103 din Israel.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p><b>Deuteronom 18:18<\/b>: \u201cLe voi ridica, din mijlocul poporului lor, un Profet asemenea \u0163ie [Moise].\u201d Lucrul acesta s-a \u00eemplinit \u00een Fapte 3:22, 7:37 \u0219i Ioan 6:14.<\/p>\n<p><b>Geneza 3:15<\/b>: \u201cDu\u015fm\u0103nie \u00eentre tine \u015fi femeie, \u00eentre s\u0103m\u00e2n\u0163a [a \u0219arpelui] ta \u015fi s\u0103m\u00e2n\u0163a ei [a femeii]\u201d (\u201ccine este Hristos,\u201d Galateni. 3:16).<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen niciuna dintre aceste profe\u021bii nu exist\u0103 un indiciu la o provenien\u021b\u0103 din r\u00e2ndul \u00eengerilor. Dar mai degrab\u0103 acest profet final ar proveni din r\u00e2ndul oamenilor.<\/p>\n<p><b>2 Samuel 7:14-16<\/b>: \u201cCi casa ta [David] \u015fi \u00eemp\u0103r\u0103\u0163ia ta vor d\u0103inui ve\u015fnic \u00eenaintea Mea \u015fi scaunul t\u0103u de domnie va fi \u00eent\u0103rit pe vecie Eu voi fi tat\u0103l lui iar el va fi fiul meu.\u201d Acest lucru este citat \u00een Evrei 1:5. \u0218i 2 Samuel 7:19 \u0219i se spune c\u0103 va fi \u201ep\u00e2n\u0103 la un viitor \u00eendep\u0103rtat\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><b>Apocalipsa 22:16<\/b>: Yahushua mai departe \u00ee\u0219i define\u0219te identitatea: \u201cEu sunt R\u0103d\u0103cina \u015fi S\u0103m\u00e2n\u0163a lui David, Luceaf\u0103rul str\u0103lucitor de diminea\u0163\u0103.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen acela\u0219i mod \u00een care Moise nu a preexistat, Mesia urma s\u0103 fie o persoan\u0103 complet uman\u0103 dar promis\u0103 s\u0103 fie fiul lui Yahuwah \u0219i al lui David \u00eentr-un viitor apropiat. El era s\u0103m\u00e2n\u021ba oamenilor de pe p\u0103m\u00e2nt \u2014 \u201cfemeia\u201d Avraam \u0219i David. Umbrirea Mariei de c\u0103tre spiritul sf\u00e2nt nu i-a modificat identitatea ca fiin\u021b\u0103 uman\u0103. Fiul lui Yahuwah, Adam, era \u0219i el pe deplin omenesc (Luca 3:38).<\/p>\n<p><b>Psalm 22:10<\/b>: \u201cDin p\u00e2ntecele mamei ai fost Dumnezeul meu.\u201d Acest Psalm este o profe\u021bie a lui Mesia, dovad\u0103 fiind citatele sale din Evanghelii. A\u0219adar, acest verset indic\u0103 cu t\u0103rie c\u0103 Mesia l-a avut pe Yahuwah ca Dumnezeul \u0219i Tat\u0103l s\u0103u numai de la na\u0219tere. Prin urmare, nu ar fi putut fi singurul Fiu n\u0103scut \u00eenainte de acel moment. <b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.worldslastchance.com\/romanian\/biblical-christian-beliefs\/de-cand-a-existat-fiul-lui-yahuwah-partea-2.html\">(s\u0103 fie continuat.<\/a>)<\/b><b> <\/b><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><sup>1<\/sup> <i>Church History of the First Three Centuries<\/i>, p. 65.<\/p>\n<p><sup>2<\/sup> <i>Hastings Dictionary of the Bible, <\/i>Vol. 4, p. 576.<\/p>\n<p><sup>3<\/sup> <i>Jesus \u2013 God and Man, <\/i>pp. 120, 143.<\/p>\n<p><sup>4<\/sup> <i>The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture<\/i>, p. 75.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>Acest articol non-WLC este de Ray Faircloth.<\/p>\n<p>Am scos din articolul original toate numele \u0219i titlurile p\u0103g\u00e2ne ale Tat\u0103lui \u0219i ale Fiului \u0219i le-am \u00eenlocuit cu numele date originale. Mai mult, \u00een Scripturi am redat numele Tat\u0103lui \u0219i Fiului, a\u0219a cum au fost scrise ini\u021bial de autorii inspira\u021bi ai Bibliei. -Echipa WLC<\/p>\n","protected":false},"featured_media":105473,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":[],"class_list":["post-111237","wlc-article","type-wlc-article","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","wlc-article-category-concepte-biblice","wlc-content-directory-yahushua-one-nature-100-human"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.7 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>De C\u00e2nd Exist\u0103 Fiul lui Yahuwah? 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