{"id":111159,"date":"2021-03-20T08:32:07","date_gmt":"2021-03-20T08:32:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/staging.worldslastchance.com\/wlc-article\/migrating-reflectii-din-istoria-trinitatii\/"},"modified":"2025-08-22T08:07:39","modified_gmt":"2025-08-22T08:07:39","slug":"reflectii-din-istoria-trinitatii","status":"publish","type":"wlc-article","link":"https:\/\/staging.worldslastchance.com\/ro\/articles\/curente-doctrinare\/reflectii-din-istoria-trinitatii\/","title":{"rendered":"Reflec\u021bii din Istoria Trinit\u0103\u021bii"},"content":{"rendered":"<table align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\" border=\"1\" bordercolor=\"#000000\" height=\"44\" style=\"border-collapse:collapse;border:undefined;\" width=\"100%\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"100%\">\n<p class=\"indenttext\" style=\"text-align:justify\">Acesta este un articol non-WLC. C\u00e2nd folosim resurse de la al\u021bi autori, noi public\u0103m doar acel con\u021binut care este 100% \u00een armonie cu Biblia \u0219i cu cele mai recente crezuri biblice la WLC. Astfel de articole pot fi tratate ca venind direct de la WLC. Noi suntem binecuv\u00e2nta\u021bi prin lucrarea multor slujitori ai lui Yahuwah. Dar nu sf\u0103tuim s\u0103 se exploreze alte lucr\u0103ri ale acestor scriitori. Astfel de lucr\u0103ri, le-am respins de la publicare deoarece con\u021bin erori. Din p\u0103cate nu exist\u0103 nicio lucrare de slujire liber\u0103 de eroare. Dac\u0103 suntem \u0219oca\u021bi de unele subiecte non-WLC publicate, [articole\/episoade], p\u0103stra\u021bi \u00een minte Proverbe 4:18. \u00cen\u021belegerea noastr\u0103 asupra adev\u0103rului S\u0103u este \u00een dezvoltare, \u0219i tot mai mult\u0103 lumin\u0103 vine pe c\u0103rarea noastr\u0103. Iubim adev\u0103rul mai mult dec\u00e2t via\u021ba, \u0219i \u00eel vom c\u0103uta coste c\u00e2t ar costa.<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"platon\" src=\"https:\/\/s3.amazonaws.com\/static.worldslastchance.org\/2025\/08\/plato.jpg\" style=\"width: 700px; height: 284px;\"><\/p>\n<p>Platon (c. 428-348 BC) credea c\u0103 miturile despre zeii greci erau povestiri false imorale f\u0103cute de oameni (poate a avut dreptate!). El credea \u00een lumea spiritual a perfec\u021biunii (lumea ideiilor\/formelor). De fapt, el credea c\u0103 ceea ce vedem \u00een aceast\u0103 lume sunt copii imperfect ale unei lumi perfecte spirituale. \u00cenv\u0103\u021b\u0103tura fals\u0103 a sufletului nemuritor \u00ee\u0219i are originea \u00een Platon. El a \u00eenceput \u201d\u0219coala de filosofie\u201d elenistic\u0103 care a atras mul\u021bi studen\u021bi de-a lungul secolelor\u2014 \u201cfilosofia greac\u0103.\u201d Noi, cei din vest avem tendin\u021ba s\u0103 g\u00e2ndim asemenea grecilor\u2014 nu asemenea evreilor.<\/p>\n<p>Filosofia greac\u0103 i-a influen\u021bat chiar \u0219i pe evrei. Unul dintre ei a fost faimosul Filo (c. 20 BC-50 AD), iudeul despre care unii cred c\u0103 a influen\u021bat Crezul Niceean, chiar dac\u0103 era mort de 300 de ani. Unii cred c\u0103 \u201cLumin\u0103 din Lumin\u0103, Dumnezeu adev\u0103rat din Dumnezeu adev\u0103rat\u201d din Crezul Niceean provine din scrierile lui Filo. Am verificat \u0219i sunt mul\u021bumit c\u0103 este adev\u0103rat.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen conformitate cu istoricul bisericii Jaroslav Pelikan, care a citit \u0219i comentat asupra unui total de 38 de volume ale scrierilor p\u0103rin\u021bilor biserice\u0219ti, c\u0103 neo-platonismul secolului al treilea a urmat pa\u0219ii filozofilor greci. Ei au continuat ideile vechi \u0219i au dezvoltat altele noi. Una dintre aceste idei era c\u0103 \u00een lumea metafizic\u0103\/ lumea ideilor, existau trei elemente\u2014 Unul, Intelectul \u0219i Sufletul\u2014 \u0219i aceste trei sunt ontologic una, una \u00een esen\u021b\u0103. Sun\u0103 familiar? Aceasta era ideia lui Plotinus (c. 204-270 AD). El credea c\u0103 fizicul era r\u0103u \u0219i spiritualul bun, i.e.,ca \u00een G\u00e2ndirea gnostic\u0103. Augustin de Hippo pare s\u0103 fi fost influen\u021bat de acela\u0219i curent de g\u00e2ndire, \u0219i a f\u0103cut din sex aproape un p\u0103cat\u2014 chiar \u0219i \u00een c\u0103s\u0103torie.<\/p>\n<p>Este bine cunoscut c\u0103 unii dintre p\u0103rin\u021bii cre\u0219tini timpurii, cum sunt Iustin Martirul, Tertulian, Clement din Alexandria \u0219i Theodosius, erau influen\u021ba\u021bi de filosofia greac\u0103. Am citit scrierile lor \u0219i niciunul dintre ei nu erau trinitarieni. Exist\u0103 falsa ideie r\u0103sp\u00e2ndit\u0103 de trinitarienii care scot citate afar\u0103 din context \u0219i sper\u0103 ca nimeni,( asemenea mie ) s\u0103 nu citeasc\u0103 scrierile originale pentru ei \u00een\u0219i\u0219i! Iustin Martirul, arian (credea c\u0103 Fiul a fost creat) a plasat \u00eenceputul Logosului(Cuv\u00e2ntuluit) la \u00eenceputul crea\u021biei (nu \u00een mod trinitarian!). Tertulian credea c\u0103 Fiul era subordonat Tat\u0103lui, ceea ce de sigur a fost respins de biseric\u0103 ca fiind erezie. Theofilus din Antiohia vorbea despre Dumnezeu, Cuv\u00e2ntul S\u0103u \u0219i \u00cen\u021belepciunea Sa (dar nu ca trinitate!). De fapt, Iaroslav Pelikan spune c\u0103 mul\u021bi dintre scriitorii biserice\u0219ti timpurii erau mai mult \u201cmodali\u0219ti\u201d (Unitarieni) dec\u00e2t Trinitarieni \u00een g\u00e2ndire.<\/p>\n<p>P\u0103rin\u021bii biserice\u0219ti timpurii erau mult mai interesa\u021bi de \u201cteoria Logosului \u201d dec\u00e2t de trinitate, de cum rela\u021bioneaz\u0103 Yahuwah cu Cuv\u00e2ntul. Aproape to\u021bi credeau c\u0103 Fiul era subordonat Tat\u0103lui, dar nu cum \u00eenva\u021b\u0103 trinitatea. Contrar Bibliei,Trinitatea nu \u00eenva\u021b\u0103 subordina\u021bionismul. C\u00e2nd Arie a citat p\u0103rin\u021bii biserice\u0219ti \u0219i Biblia \u00een fa\u021ba \u00cemp\u0103rtului Constantin, Constantin \u0219i-a schimbat pozi\u021bia \u0219i l-a exilat pe Atanasie. El a devenit arian \u0219i a fost botezat pe patul de moarte de cardinalul arian, Eusebius din Nicomedia.<\/p>\n<table align=\"left\" border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"15\" height=\"400\" width=\"235\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"origen din Alexandria\" src=\"https:\/\/s3.amazonaws.com\/static.worldslastchance.org\/2025\/08\/origenteaching.jpeg.jpg\" style=\"margin-left: 0px; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; width: 400px; height: 289px;\" title=\"\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 11px\"><strong><font color=\"#6699cc\"><\/font><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"indenttext\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><font color=\"#6699cc\"><\/font><\/strong><strong><span style=\"color:#3498db;\">\u201cOrigen \u00cenv\u0103\u021b\u00e2nd pe Sfin\u021bi,\u201d Eileen McGuckin<\/span><\/strong><font color=\"#6699cc\"><\/font><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Apoi a venit Origen (c. 184-253). El a fost mult influen\u021bat de filosofia greac\u0103. El credea \u00een preexisten\u021ba sufletului\u2014 c\u0103 suntem cu to\u021bii suflete nemuritoare \u00een ceruri, \u00eenainte ca s\u0103 devenim bebelu\u0219i \u00een p\u00e2ntecele mamei, \u0219i credea deasemenea \u00een salvarea universal\u0103\u2014 fiecare va fi salvat. Nu e de mirare de ce a fost excomunicat! La \u0219coala lui Origene din Alexandria, toate aceste idei filozofice grece\u0219ti erau citite. Este interesant de \u0219tiut c\u0103 un om numit Rufinus admite c\u0103 a schimbat scrierile lui Origene ca s\u0103 retrag\u0103 ordinul de excomunicare dup\u0103 moartea lui. Putem dovedi c\u0103 a\u0219a stau lucrurile fiindc\u0103 fragmentele din scrierile lui Origen nu se potrivesc cu cartea lui Rufinus. Scrierile lui Origen au fost arse dar fragmentele au r\u0103mas. Origen a fost primul care a folosit expresia \u201dFiul atemporal\u201d\u2014 totu\u0219i el a folosit \u0219i cuv\u00e2ntul \u201ccreat\u201d cu referire la Fiul . El era peste tot.<\/p>\n<p>Datorit\u0103 persecu\u021biei, bisericile nu puteau comunica prea u\u0219or unele cu altele p\u00e2n\u0103 la sf\u00e2r\u0219itul secolului trei. \u00cen secolul al treilea au existat c\u00e2teva concilii, deoarece se vehiculau multe idei teologice controversate:<\/p>\n<p>Modalism\/Monarchianism\/Sabellianism, Unitarianism, Arianism, Adoptionism, Docetism, etc.<\/p>\n<p>La timpul c\u00e2nd s-a convertit Constantin (c. 312), el a g\u0103sit biserica dezbinat\u0103 \u0219i \u00eencepea \u201cmarea perioad\u0103\u201d a Conciliilor ale Bisericii. Arius sus\u021binea, \u00een acel timp, c\u0103 Fiul este creat, \u0219i aceasta era o problem\u0103 at\u00e2t pentru Atanasie( care era Trinitarian) c\u00e2t \u0219i pentru seni-arienii din r\u0103s\u0103rit care credeau c\u0103 Fiul s-a n\u0103scut din Tat\u0103l, nu ca o Persoan\u0103 ve\u0219nic\u0103, Dumnezeu Fiul. Semi \u2013arienii l-au \u00eencurajat pe Arie \u0219i au spus c\u0103 i-au acceptat \u00eenv\u0103\u021b\u0103tura, dar m\u0103 tem c\u0103 nu a fost a\u0219a.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen \u00eencercarea de unire a Bisericii \u0219i ca s\u0103 creasc\u0103 puterea imperiului s\u0103u, Constantin a convocat conciliul de la Niceea din 325 AD. Aici s-a decis natura lui Yahushua, Fiul. S-a decis c\u0103 Fiul era \u201chomoousios\u201d (de aceea\u0219i esen\u021b\u0103 cu Yahuwah) \u0219i nu \u201chomoiousios\u201d (similar esen\u021bei ca Dumnezeu). Decizia a fost c\u0103 Arie era neortodox. Doar vreo trei arieni au votat \u00eempotriv\u0103 \u0219i ace\u0219tia au fost exila\u021bi. Nu s-a luat nicio decizie cu privire la Duhul Sf\u00e2nt, si vor r\u0103m\u00e2ne multe idei cu privire la ce \u0219i cine este <a href=\"https:\/\/www.worldslastchance.com\/romanian\/winds-of-doctrine\/socant-noi-evidente-descopera-adevarata-natura-a-lui-hristos.html\">Duhul Sf\u00e2nt<\/a>, s\u0103 se confrunte p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een 381 AD.<\/p>\n<p>Ce nu au men\u021bionat niciodat\u0103, trinitarienii este c\u0103 dezbaterea a continuat dup\u0103 Niceea. Arius l-a c\u00e2\u0219tigat pe \u00cemp\u0103ratul Constantin de partea sa \u0219i el \u0219i fiul s\u0103u au devenit arieni. Apoi \u00een 357 AD un conciliu \u0219i mai mare dec\u00e2t cel de la Niceea a declarat arienismul ortodox (Al Treilea Conciliu de la Smirna).<\/p>\n<table align=\"0\" border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"15\" height=\"324\" width=\"235\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"p\u0103rin\u021bii capadocieni\" src=\"https:\/\/s3.amazonaws.com\/static.worldslastchance.org\/2025\/08\/cf.png\" style=\"margin-left: 0px; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; width: 600px; height: 314px; float: left;\" title=\"\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 11px\"><strong><font color=\"#6699cc\"><\/font><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"indenttext\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><font color=\"#6699cc\">\u201cP\u0103rin\u021bii capadocineni\u201d\u2014Vasile cel Mare, Grigore de Nissa \u0219i Grigore de Nazianz<\/font><\/strong><font color=\"#6699cc\"><\/font><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>S-a f\u0103cut o mare desp\u0103r\u021bire \u0219i oameni asemenea \u201cp\u0103rin\u021bilor capadocieni\u201d \u2014 Vasile cel Mare, Grigore de Nissa \u0219i Grigore de Nazianz\u2014s-au desprins pentru a ap\u0103ra Trinitatea. Vasile \u0219i Gregore de Nissa erau fra\u021bi educa\u021bi \u00een familie cre\u0219tin\u0103. Tat\u0103l lor (Vasile cel B\u0103tr\u00e2n)a fost influen\u021bat de filosofia greac\u0103. Vasile cel Mare a scris un document \u00een care Duhul Sf\u00e2nt era a treia persoan\u0103 co-egal\u0103, co-etern\u0103 a Dumnezeirii, a Trint\u0103\u021bii, care a influen\u021bat mult Conciliul de la Constantinopole din 381 AD. Astfel Duhul Sf\u00e2nt a devenit oficial a treia persoan\u0103 ortodox\u0103 co-etern\u0103, co-egal\u0103, a treia Persoan\u0103-Dumnezeu a Trinit\u0103\u021bii.<\/p>\n<p>Toti p\u0103rin\u021bii capadocieni erau cititori ai filozofiei grece\u0219ti. Ei au \u00eencercat s\u0103 arate cum aceste Persoane distincte, fiecare fiind Dumnezeu, cu min\u021bi separate \u0219i voin\u021b\u0103 proprie, pot fi un singur Dumnezeu \u0219i nu trei Dumnezei. Ei nu au ob\u021binut niciodat\u0103 acest lucru. Ei au \u00eencercat s\u0103 explice aceste subiecte folosindu-se de principiile filozofiei grece\u0219ti cum sunt cele trei principii ale lui Platinius: Unu, Intelectul \u0219i Sufletul, \u0219i acestea trei ontologic sunt una. Ei chiar au admis c\u0103 nu pot face trei \u00een unu.<\/p>\n<table align=\"right\" border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"15\" height=\"527\" width=\"235\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Liberale din Verona: Isus \u00een fa\u021ba Por\u021bilor Ierusalimului\" src=\"https:\/\/s3.amazonaws.com\/static.worldslastchance.org\/2025\/08\/Jesus-manuscript-illumination-Gates-Jerusalem-Liberale-da.jpg\" style=\"margin-left: 0px; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid; width: 368px; height: 450px;\" title=\"\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 11px\"><strong><font color=\"#6699cc\"><\/font><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"indenttext\"><strong><font color=\"#6699cc\">\u201dYahushua \u00eenaintea Por\u021bilor Ierusalimului\u201dmanuscris scos la lumina\u0103 de Liberale da Verona, 1470\u201374; in the Piccolomini Library, Siena, Italy. SCALA\/Art Resource, New York<\/font><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t<strong> <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>De secole, teologii au \u00eencercat s\u0103 \u00een\u021beleag\u0103 cum trei Persoane \u2014 fiecare dintre ele fiind Dumnezeu \u2014 pot fi un singur Dumnezeu. Ei se leag\u0103 de \u00eentreb\u0103ri cum ar fi:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Este Dumnezeu o Trinitate social\u0103? Sau o Trinitate economic\u0103 ?<\/li>\n<li>Cine este corect: Crezul niceean atunci c\u00e2nd afirm\u0103 c\u0103 Dumnezeu este o singur\u0103 ipostaz\u0103 sau Crezul de la Constantinopol care spune c\u0103 Dumnezeu este \u00een trei ipostaze? Romano-catolicii sunt corec\u021bi \u00een ce prive\u0219te Trinitatea lor sau mai de grab\u0103 ortodoc\u0219ii r\u0103s\u0103riteni?<\/li>\n<li>Sunt cei care cred \u00een teoria kenosis (golire) corec\u021bi sau cei ce i se opun? Cum poate Dumnezeu-Fiul s\u0103 se goleasc\u0103 de Sine \u00censu\u0219i de atributele care-L fac \u201dDumnezeu\u201d?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Augustin din Hipo (354-430) le-a introdus pe toate acestea. Se pare c\u0103 \u0219i el a fost influen\u021bat de neo-platonismul secolului al treilea. Datorit\u0103 scrierilor lui \u0219i \u00een primul r\u00e2nd persecu\u021biilor \u00eemp\u0103ratului Teodosie, care a f\u0103cut ca Trinitatea s\u0103 fie obligatorie dup\u0103 Conciliul din Constantinopol in 381 AD, trinitarienii au c\u00e2\u0219tigat suprema\u021bie.<\/p>\n<p>Personal, cred c\u0103 adev\u0103rata biseric\u0103 este o turm\u0103 mica care a continuat s\u0103 alimenteze notele de subsol ale istoriei. Ei au suportat nedreptatea \u0219i au r\u0103mas credincio\u0219i cu pu\u021bina putere pe care au avut-o.Nu spun c\u0103 nu exist\u0103 copii ai lui Yahuwah \u00een marile biserici din lume, dar mesajul S\u0103u c\u0103tre ei este <a href=\"https:\/\/www.worldslastchance.com\/romanian\/end-time-prophecy\/ieii-afar-din-ea-poporul-meupartea-1.html\">Ie\u0219i\u021bi din ea, poporul Meu!.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<table align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\" border=\"1\" bordercolor=\"#000000\" height=\"44\" style=\"border-collapse:collapse;border:undefined;\" width=\"100%\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"100%\">\n<p class=\"indenttext\" style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Pentru aprofundarea acestui subiect important, folosi\u021bi motorul de c\u0103utare WLC: <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.worldslastchance.com\/romanian\/directory#Trinitatea-(eroare-doctrinal%C4%83)\">Trinitatea (eroare-doctrinal)<\/a><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<hr>\n<p>Acest articol non-WLC a fost scris de Greg Michaelson, Australia.<\/p>\n<p>Am scos din articolul original toate numele p\u0103g\u00e2ne \u0219i titlurile Tat\u0103lui \u0219i Fiului, \u0219i le-am \u00eenlocuit cu numele originale date. Mai mult, am restaurat \u00een citatele Scripturii numele Tat\u0103lui \u0219i Fiului, a\u0219a cum au fost scrise \u00een original de scriitorii Bibliei. \u2013Echipa WLC<\/p>\n","protected":false},"featured_media":105355,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":[],"class_list":["post-111159","wlc-article","type-wlc-article","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","wlc-article-category-curente-doctrinare","wlc-content-directory-the-binitarian-trinitarian-error"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.7 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Reflec\u021bii din Istoria Trinit\u0103\u021bii - Worlds Last Chance<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/staging.worldslastchance.com\/articles\/winds-of-doctrine\/some-thoughts-on-the-history-of-the-trinity\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"ro_RO\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Reflec\u021bii din Istoria Trinit\u0103\u021bii - Worlds Last Chance\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Acesta este un articol non-WLC. 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