{"id":111087,"date":"2020-11-28T12:30:04","date_gmt":"2020-11-28T12:30:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/staging.worldslastchance.com\/wlc-article\/migrating-enoh-si-ilie-nu-sunt-in-ceruri-dar-stii-unde-spune-biblia-ca-sunt\/"},"modified":"2025-08-22T07:12:08","modified_gmt":"2025-08-22T07:12:08","slug":"enoh-si-ilie-nu-sunt-in-ceruri-dar-stii-unde-spune-biblia-ca-sunt","status":"publish","type":"wlc-article","link":"https:\/\/staging.worldslastchance.com\/ro\/articles\/profetii-din-timpul-sfarsitului\/enoh-si-ilie-nu-sunt-in-ceruri-dar-stii-unde-spune-biblia-ca-sunt\/","title":{"rendered":"Enoh \u0219i Ilie nu sunt \u00een Ceruri! Dar \u0219tii unde spune Biblia c\u0103 sunt?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\n
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Cre\u0219tinii au crezut mult timp c\u0103 Enoh \u0219i Ilie au fost \u201ctransfera\u021bi\u201d \u00een Ceruri. Acest crez se bazeaz\u0103, totu\u0219i pe o presupunere gre\u0219it\u0103. Afl\u0103 ce spune Biblia c\u0103 s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat \u00een realitate dup\u0103 ce i-a luat. Nu este ceea ce \u021bi s-a spus!<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

A\u021bi crezut ceva ca fiind adev\u0103rat p\u00e2n\u0103 a\u021bi descoperit mai t\u00e2rziu c\u0103 a\u021bi fost gre\u0219i\u021bi \u00een tot acest timp. . . \u0219i toate datorit\u0103 unui crez bazat pe o presupunere incorect\u0103? Eu, da. \u0218i \u00eentotdeauna sunt surprins de adev\u0103r deoarece faptele au existat acolo \u00een tot acest timp dar nu le-am luat \u00een seam\u0103 deoarece nu se potriveau cu presupunerile mele.<\/p>\n

Este ceea ce s-a petrecut cu istoriile lui Enoh \u0219i Ilie. Noi presupunem c\u0103 atunci c\u00e2nd Yah i-a \u201cluat\u201d, El i-a luat la Ceruri. Dar acesta nu este cazul \u0219i o pot demonstra cu Biblia!<\/p>\n

Enoh<\/b><\/h3>\n

\"Enoh\"Tot ce \u0219tim despre Enoh se g\u0103se\u0219te \u00een patru versete scurte din Geneza cinci:<\/p>\n

Enoh a tr\u0103it \u0219aizeci \u0219i cinci de ani, \u0219i l-a n\u0103scut pe Metusala. Dup\u0103 ce l-a n\u0103scut pe Metusala, Enoh a umblat cu Yahuwah trei sute de ani, \u0219i a avut fii \u0219i fiice. Astfel, toate zilele lui Enoh au fost de trei sute \u0219aizeci \u0219i cinci de ani. \u0218i Enoh a umblat cu Yah; \u0219i nu a mai fost pentru c\u0103 Yah l-a luat. (Geneza 5:21-24)<\/p>\n

Este interesant de notat c\u0103 Moise nu spune despre Enoh c\u0103, \u00eenc\u0103, mai umbl\u0103 cu Yah. Cu siguran\u021b\u0103 c\u0103 ar fi f\u0103cut-o, \u00een cuvinte. Dar nu a f\u0103cut-o. Ci mai de grab\u0103 frazele sale arat\u0103 c\u0103 Enoh a f\u0103cut<\/i>( la trecut ) ceva. Mai mult Moise afirm\u0103: \u201cToate zilele lui Enoh a fost de trei sute \u0219aizeci \u0219io cinci de ani.\u201d Dac\u0103 Enoch a fost ridicat la Ceruri a\u0219a cum presupunem, num\u0103rul zilelor sale ar fi continuat s\u0103 creasc\u0103had been carried to Heaven as we\u2019ve assumed, the number of his days would be continuing to increase. But that is not what Moses said.<\/p>\n

Motivul este simplu: Enoh a murit. Este foarte posibil \u00een acele timpuri violente, antediluviene, ca acest predicator al drept\u0103\u021bii s\u0103 fi fost de fapt ucis. \u00cenregistrarea sacr\u0103 este t\u0103cut\u0103 \u00een ceea ce prive\u0219te detaliile. Cu toate acestea, un fapt pe care \u00eel putem \u0219ti f\u0103r\u0103 echivoc este c\u0103 Enoh a murit. Milenii mai t\u00e2rziu, Ioan preaiubitul, sub inspira\u021bie, avea s\u0103 scrie: \u201eNimeni nu s-a \u00een\u0103l\u021bat la cer dec\u00e2t cel care a cobor\u00e2t din cer, adic\u0103 Fiul Omului care este \u00een ceruri\u201d. (Ioan 3:13) Aceasta este ceea ce se nume\u0219te o afirma\u021bie \u201etotal\u0103\u201d. Este inclusiv pentru toat\u0103 lumea: \u201eNimeni nu s-a \u00een\u0103l\u021bat la cer\u201d<\/p>\n

Confuzia a ap\u0103rut asupra cuv\u00e2ntului \u201etransferat\u201d. Evrei 11: 5 afirm\u0103: \u201ePrin credin\u021b\u0103, Enoh a fost transferat ca s\u0103 nu vad\u0103 moartea; \u0219i nu a fost g\u0103sit, pentru c\u0103 Yahuwah \u00eel transferase \u201d. Observa\u021bi c\u0103 nu ne spune c\u0103 Enoh a fost dus \u00een Rai c\u00e2nd a fost transferat. Se afirm\u0103 c\u0103 nu a fost g\u0103sit<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Cuv\u00e2ntul \u201etradus\u201d provine din cuv\u00e2ntul grecesc, metatithemi. Defini\u021bia principal\u0103 a acestui cuv\u00e2nt este \u201ea transfera \u00een alt loc. . . [to] transfer. \u201d1 Acesta este exact acela\u0219i cuv\u00e2nt grecesc care, \u00een Faptele Apostolilor 7:16, este tradus\u201e transportat \u201datunci c\u00e2nd se explic\u0103 faptul c\u0103 dup\u0103 moartea lui Iacov, corpul s\u0103u a fost transferat \/ transportat \/ metatitemi la \u0218ehem unde a fost \u00eengropat cu p\u0103rin\u021bii s\u0103i \u00een pe\u0219tera Machpelah. Cu alte cuvinte, Yahuwah a f\u0103cut pentru Enoh ceea ce va face mai t\u00e2rziu pentru Moise: \u201eDeci Moise, slujitorul lui Yahuwah, a murit acolo \u00een \u021bara Moabului, conform cuv\u00e2ntului lui Yahuwah. \u0218i El [Yahuwah] l-a \u00eengropat [pe Moise] \u00eentr-o vale din \u021bara Moabului, vizavi de Bethpeor; dar nimeni nu \u0219tie de morm\u00e2ntul s\u0103u p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een ziua de azi \u201d. (Deuteronom 34: 5-6, KJV)<\/p>\n

\"moab\"<\/p>\n

\u00cen ceea ce prive\u0219te expresia c\u0103 Enoh a fost transferat astfel \u00eenc\u00e2t \u201es\u0103 nu vad\u0103 moartea\u201d, aminti\u021bi-v\u0103 c\u0103 Scriptura \u00eenva\u021b\u0103 c\u0103 exist\u0103 dou\u0103 mor\u021bi: exist\u0103 moartea trupului care este rezultatul p\u0103catului \u0219i exist\u0103 moartea (distrugerea final\u0103) a sufletului. Aceast\u0103 soart\u0103 \u00eei a\u0219teapt\u0103 pe to\u021bi cei care refuz\u0103 s\u0103 se \u00eentoarc\u0103 la Yah \u00een poc\u0103in\u021b\u0103. Este cea de-a doua moarte la care se referea autorul Evrei 11 pentru c\u0103 mai t\u00e2rziu, \u00een acela\u0219i capitol, afirm\u0103 f\u0103r\u0103 echivoc: \u201e\u0218i cu toate acestea, dup\u0103 ce au ob\u021binut o m\u0103rturie bun\u0103 prin credin\u021b\u0103, nu au primit f\u0103g\u0103duin\u021ba\u201d. (Evrei 11:39) To\u021bi cei enumera\u021bi \u00een Evrei 11 – \u0219i asta include \u0219i Enoh – au murit \u00een moarte fizic\u0103, dar prin credin\u021b\u0103 nu vor \u201evedea\u201d a doua moarte a anihil\u0103rii.<\/p>\n

Ilie <\/b><\/h3>\n

\"Ilie\"Povestea lui Ilie este deosebit de interesant\u0103, deoarece nu numai c\u0103 Yahuwah l-a \u201etransferat\u201d \u00eentr-un alt loc printr-un car de foc, dar Scriptura arat\u0103 c\u0103 a tr\u0103it de fapt pe p\u0103m\u00e2nt cel pu\u021bin patru p\u00e2n\u0103 la cinci ani dup\u0103 aceea! 2<\/sup><\/p>\n

2 \u00cemp\u0103ra\u021bi 2:11 afirm\u0103 c\u0103 \u201eIlie s-a urcat \u00eentr-un un v\u00e2rtej \u00een cer\u201d. Cuv\u00e2ntul \u201ecer\u201d din Scriptur\u0103 se refer\u0103 de fapt la mai multe niveluri diferite. Exist\u0103 Raiul – al treilea cer – care este casa Creatorului, desigur. Exist\u0103, de asemenea, al doilea cer \u00een care sunt planetele, soarele, luna \u0219i stelele. Cerul la care se face referire \u00een 2 Regi 2:11 este primul cer: atmosfera. Evident, pentru a exista un v\u00e2rtej, ar trebui s\u0103 se afle \u00een primul nivel al \u201ecerului\u201d. Dup\u0103 cum o \u00een\u021belegem, v\u00e2rtejurile nu exist\u0103 dincolo de firmamemtul care \u00eenchide atmosfera de deasupra p\u0103m\u00e2ntului.<\/p>\n

Mai interesant este \u00eenc\u0103 ceea ce i s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat lui Ilie dup\u0103 aceea. Scriptura nu spune unde, exact, a fost dus Ilie, dar faptul c\u0103 mantia conducerii i-a trecut lui Elisei \u00een timp ce Ilie a continuat s\u0103 tr\u0103iasc\u0103, devine clar odat\u0103 ce a\u021bi aflat istoria regilor lui Iuda \u0219i Israel. Chiar \u00eenainte de a fi luat Ilie, un nou rege a venit pe tronul lui Israel. Confuz pentru cititorii moderni, noul rege al Israelului avea acela\u0219i nume ca regele lui Iuda. Am\u00e2ndoi se numeau Ioram! (Vezi 2 \u00cemp\u0103ra\u021bi 1:17.) Ioram al lui Iuda a domnit \u00eempreun\u0103 cu tat\u0103l s\u0103u, Iosafat, aproximativ doi ani simultan. Patru ani mai t\u00e2rziu, regele Iosafat a murit \u00een 845 \u00ee.Hr. Ioram, regele lui Iuda, \u0219i-a ucis imediat fra\u021bii pentru a-\u0219i asigura tronul.<\/p>\n

De asemenea, a ac\u021bionat pentru a restabili p\u0103g\u00e2nismul \u00een tot Iuda. Biblia consemneaz\u0103 \u201e\u00eel p\u0103r\u0103sise pe Yahuwah Elohim al p\u0103rin\u021bilor s\u0103i\u201d. (Cronici a doua 21:10) Dar apoi, s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat ceva uimitor! Ceva care ar fi fost imposibil dac\u0103 Ilie ar fi mort sau \u00een Rai cu Yahuwah. Regele R\u0103u Ioram a primit o scrisoare.\ufeff<\/p>\n

Mai mult, el [Ioram al lui Iuda] a ridicat \u00een\u0103l\u021bimi \u00een mun\u021bii lui Iuda \u0219i i-a f\u0103cut pe locuitorii Ierusalimului s\u0103 curveasc\u0103 \u0219i l-a silit pe Iuda la aceasta. \u0218i i-a sosit o scrisoare de la proorocul Ilie<\/i>, zic\u00e2nd: A\u0219a spune Yahuwah Elohim al tat\u0103lui t\u0103u David: Pentru c\u0103 nu ai umblat pe c\u0103ile tat\u0103lui t\u0103u Iosafat \u0219i nici pe c\u0103ile lui Asa, regele lui Iuda, ci ai umblat \u00een calea \u00eemp\u0103ra\u021bilor lui Israel \u0219i i-ai f\u0103cut pe Iuda \u0219i pe locuitorii Ierusalimului s\u0103 curveasc\u0103, cu curviile casei lui Ahab, \u0219i ai ucis pe fra\u021bii t\u0103i din casa tat\u0103lui t\u0103u, care erau mai buni dec\u00e2t tine: cu o mare plag\u0103, Yahuwah va pedepsi pe poporul t\u0103u, pe copiii t\u0103i, pe so\u021biile tale \u0219i toate bunurile tale. (2Cronici 21: 11-15)<\/p>\n

Este uimitor! Aceast\u0103 scrisoare a ap\u0103rut la aproximativ patru ani dup\u0103 ce Ilie \u201es-a urcat \u00eentr-un v\u00e2rtej \u00een cer\u201d. (II Regi 2:11) De\u0219i nu \u0219tim unde a tr\u0103it restul vie\u021bii sale naturale, nu a fost \u00een Rai. \u00cen mod clar, a\u0219a cum ar afirma Ioan aproape o mie de ani mai t\u00e2rziu, \u201enimeni nu s-a \u00een\u0103l\u021bat la cer\u201d. (Ioan 3:13) Enoh \u0219i Ilie, ca slujitori credincio\u0219i ai Celui Prea\u00eenalt, se odihnesc \u00een morm\u00e2nt \u00een a\u0219teptarea \u00eentoarcerii lui Yahushua, c\u00e2nd ace\u0219tia, \u00eempreun\u0103 cu credincio\u0219ii din toate veacurile, vor fi \u00eenvia\u021bi nemuritori pentru a tr\u0103i ve\u0219nic pe p\u0103m\u00e2ntul nou.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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Pentru mai multe dovezi din Scriptur\u0103 cu privire la aceast\u0103 revela\u021bie uimitoare, c\u0103uta\u021bi programul nostru de radio \u201eAfla\u021bi ce s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat cu Enoh \u0219i Ilie. Nu este ceea ce crezi tu!\u201d<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

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1<\/sup> Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, 1969 edition.<\/p>\n

2 <\/sup>Fiind transferat de duhul lui Yah nu este un lucru ne mai auzit. Exist\u0103 cel pu\u021bin unul, posibil chiar dou\u0103 incidente \u00een Scriptur\u0103. Primul, \u00eenregistrat \u00een Luca 4, c\u00e2nd s\u0103tenii din Nazaret \u00eencearc\u0103 s\u0103-l ucid\u0103 pe Yahushua \u00een ziua Sabatului :<\/p>\n

\u201d\u0218i to\u021bi din sinagog\u0103, c\u00e2nd au auzit acele lucruri, s-au umplut de m\u00e2nie, s-au ridicat \u0219i l-au t\u00e2r\u00e2t afar\u0103 din cetate \u0219i l-au \u00eempins spre marginea dealului pe care era construit\u0103 cetatea lor \u0219i doreau s\u0103-l arunce de acolo. Dar El a trecut prin mijlocul lor \u0219i s-a cobor\u00e2t la Capernaum, un ora\u0219 din Galileea, \u0219i-I \u00eenv\u0103\u021ba \u00een zilele de sabat..\u201d (Luca 4:28-31)<\/p>\n

Al doilea a avut loc dup\u0103 ce Filip l-a botezat pe etiopian:<\/p>\n

\u0218i c\u00e2nd au ie\u0219it din ap\u0103, Duhul Domnului l-a luat pe Filip, a\u0219a c\u0103 eunucul nu l-a mai v\u0103zut: \u0219i a plecat pe drumul s\u0103u, plin de bucurie. Dar Filip a fost g\u0103sit la Azot, predic\u00e2nd prin toate cet\u0103\u021bile prin care a trecut p\u00e2n\u0103 a ajuns \u00een Cezareea. (Fapte 8:39-40)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"featured_media":229998,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":[],"class_list":["post-111087","wlc-article","type-wlc-article","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","wlc-article-category-profetii-din-timpul-sfarsitului","wlc-content-directory-state-of-the-dead"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"\nEnoh \u0219i Ilie nu sunt \u00een Ceruri! 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